Should They Have Been Allowed to Walk at Graduation?

Take our poll and let us know.

Last week, RVC Patch broke the story on a group of teens who allegedly a village resident so bad they put him in the hospital after the victim confronted the group for accosting his wife.

Three days after the assault, two seniors were arrested and charged with gang assault, but both were allowed to walk with their classmates during Friday's at Hofstra University.

Residents whether the two boys charged — Matt DiPerna and William Moore — should have been allowed to walk at graduation.

What do you think? Take our poll and let us know.

Max Cady June 27, 2012 at 11:33 PM
You want some facts, Counselor? This entire group of boys were harbored by parents of one of the boys after The beating. Fact. But you know this alteady. More proof that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Mike Heller June 27, 2012 at 11:33 PM
The problem is, John, there isn't enough rightous indignation. The idea that we need to rely on courts to police the actions of our own children is the problem. The boys know what happened, and so do their parents. It's nice that you're getting a pay check due to the total lack of moral indignation that provides these boys with the opportunity to hide behind the court and not have to face any repercussion that can't be proven in a court of law. You and I both know there's a big difference between the truth and what you can prove. Of course that difference is what lines your pockets. Sleep well.
Mike Heller June 27, 2012 at 11:44 PM
So, RVC MOM. Let me ask you this as a parent. If your kid came home and you came to find out that he was involved, even peripherally, in an assault that left a grown man in the hospital. And then you found out that prior to that, your kid was even with a group of guys who verbally and physically assaulted a woman...would you, as a parent, simply wait for the court to decide what should happen to your kid? Because after-all, innocent until proven guilty right? Hey, I mean he might get off on a technicality like inadmissible evidence, or the defense attorney might be able to discredit an eyewitness just enough to remove reasonable doubt. Or, if all the boys band together and admit nothing the prosecution might not have enough to mount a viable case against any of them. And if the courts decide there isn't enough to prove they did it, then I guess they're innocent! Which would be great because then you could go back to pretending your kid's above all that and feel much better at your tennis match, uninterupted by your total and complete failing as a parent. Phew. Thank God for the American legal system!
Mike Heller June 27, 2012 at 11:49 PM
Why is no one commenting on the fact that their PARENTS allowed them to walk at the ceremony!??! Why is it the school's responsibility to parent these kids???!!! If this was one of my kids, even if they were just in the vicinity of this and either participated, or stood by and did nothing to stop it, they'd be on their way to a military recruiter. NOT GRADUATION!!! THE PARENTS ARE COWARDS!!!!
RATIONALinRVC June 28, 2012 at 12:10 AM
Mike Heller perhaps you can take the advice of one the SSHS speakers at graduation. She spoke about living in the light. For me that does not mean posts that hover in rudeness. Use your words better. Insults dont lead to a productive discussion nor do judgements based on rumor or spinning for good headlines.
Delores June 28, 2012 at 12:52 AM
Mike, What book are you wanting to throw? I am hoping it is the same book that includes innocent until proven guilty.
Mike Heller June 28, 2012 at 01:06 AM
Sorry- I just can't stand the flowery displays of willfull ignorance. You can call it rumor and conjecture then simply flip to the happier story if it makes you feel better. I happen to to be more interested in the reality of the matter, which is, a group of teens beat one guy up so badly he ended up in the hospital. What strikes me is that there should be a lot more indignation about it, rather than the care-free attitude of lets just see what the courts say. I see terrible crime in terrible neighborhoods every day (this is mild, but it's in my back yard and I'd rather not see any worse). One thing I know for a fact is that when a crime is committed in a neighborhood in Brooklyn, or the Bronx or Queens, everyone knows exactly who did it. It's no different here. So spare me the innocent until proven guilty nonsense. We all know there is a wide gulf between reality and what can be proven in court. Absent actual legal justice, there should be stigma and shame attached squarely on the backs of anyone involved. That's how communities police themselves and the lack of such social pressure is what turns neighborhoods into ghettos. But if you have so much faith in these boys, invite them over for a few beers.
tom kane June 28, 2012 at 01:48 AM
yes they should have walked bc they gonna be sittin (in jail) for awhile lol lol lol
Jim Lahey June 28, 2012 at 04:01 AM
Its a difficult situation and perhaps there is no one right decision for everyone. Personally i think its a pretty big deal these men earned their grade 12. I have no problem with them walking to get their diplomas. At the same time if they are as guilty as they appear in this senseless liquor fueled assault i hope the courts make the right decision and put them on full scholarship in con college. Jim Lahey Retired NSPD
RATIONALinRVC June 28, 2012 at 04:25 AM
Mike - If you don't see the indignation on these boards then you are only focused on those posts you disagree with. The beautiful thing about where we live is that we can have opposing views. I have been in places where that is not the case so I hold it very dear. I also hold dear that our communities are not left to police themselves. I was hopeful your response would have been one that could have started a productive dialog but calling the right to be innocent until proven guilty nonsense??? Well safe to say we should just agree to disagree...there is no dialog to be had here. Ending your note with the suggestion that I would invite these young men over for a beer just circles back on the weakness of your argument and your tendency to use low blows to make a point. Your judgment of me alone exemplifies exactly why we need the court system and not a scarlet letter brand of justice.
Jim Lahey June 28, 2012 at 06:01 AM
@ Mike heller I don't think a military recruiter would be able to do much for two men facing felony charges. I understand the sentiment that the military would instill the necessary discipline that appears to be lacking but taking them to a recruiter after the fact would be a waste of everyones time. Now if they can put down the liquor and keep their noses clean and come out of the trial cleared on their charges that trip to the recruiter would be one worth taking. Jim Lahey Retired NSPD
Max Cady June 28, 2012 at 06:11 AM
Counselor? Come out, come out wherever you are ...
Nancy June 28, 2012 at 12:41 PM
If they passed all there courses they should have received their diplomas, but they should not have been included in the graduation ceremonies.
mom of three June 28, 2012 at 12:45 PM
It is unfortunate that the lives of so many people are affected by this incident. The woman who these remarks were made to and how scared and devastated she must have been. The husband for trying to protect his wife and the horrible beating he took as we'll as humiliation he must be feeling. The parents of these boys who like most parents try so hard to raise our kids right and to treat elders with respect only to find that there child was involved in such an incident. How heartbreaking for everyone involved. I also feel for these young men that they found out the hard way that as an adult you just can't say or do anything that comes to mind. There are consequences. Regardless if they go to jail or not, Rockville Centre is a small town and everyone knows everyone's business. The names of these boys as well as the younger ones have been revealed throughout the town as well as this poor husband and his wife. I hope someone on Roxen had a security camera and got this entire incident on tape. I hope justice is done for the correct people. Thank you for listening to me ramble.
BIRDS eye view June 28, 2012 at 06:55 PM
lets all blog about how horrible these kids are! Thats productive and "the right thing to do", right ? You all are merely venting to the public out of frustration, boredom, paranoia, and stupidity. Every newspaper has publicized one half of the story. Mmmm interesting, you may ask why? Because the boys attorneys have not released there side of the story!! ( as they shouldnt) ( thats for the judge) So why have we had so many people flood the blog with negative comments; even compareing the boys to " murderers" . Has the town of great RVC lost its marbles?! Possibly some of the residents. im not here to start trouble, im here to be the reality check for some bloggers that just seem to love attention and publicity when in fact we do not need all of this right now. lets get the facts from BOTH side of the story then start pointing fingers.
Mike June 28, 2012 at 07:28 PM
All the facts will come out, even though most are already out, and these "Angels" will be punished. It is a shame that the school district did not pull the plug on their attendance at graduation. Isn't that what this message board was intended to discuss in the first place.
Frank June 28, 2012 at 07:40 PM
@ Mike. Here here. Very true. It's the parents' fault... It is not society's responsibility to parent our children... it's our job. and Mike, I love this excerpt so much, I'm reposting it again: "Their kids accosted a woman, threatened to rape her, and then beat a man nearly to death in an 8 on 1 fight. In my book that means you raised a coward who doesn't deserve the chance to do anything on their parent's dime anymore. Unfortunatley for the other 6 that weren't charged, all they will learn in life is that you can get away with anything if you just keep your mouth shut. One day they'll be hedge fund managers and alls-well-that-ends-well. And for all of you out there crying innocent until proven guilty? You're a bunch of dishonorable, litigious lemmings without an ounce of integrity. These boys should be held accountable by the community with or without the courts. For all of Rockville Centre's supposed wealth, influence and class, you people share the same attitude as gang members from East New York. If the police can't prove it, it never happened, and I aint saying nothing." Well said.
Jim Lahey June 28, 2012 at 07:54 PM
Agree with your sentiment there Mike, but the what interest exactly would the Marine Corps have in two recidivous 18 year olds facing felony charges and awaiting trial? Unfortunately rather than serving their country it seems they'll be serving themselves another couple of drinks
SSHSGrad June 28, 2012 at 08:08 PM
How can you deny these teenagers a chance to walk at their only HS graduation? This incident had nothing to do with the school or graduation. It takes 2 party's for a conflict to arise. The older gentleman should not have been a vigilante demanding an apology from the first group of kids he see's walking around, and the teenagers should not have beat the living crap out of him. I can see a food fight in the school preventing teenagers from walking, even a harsh prank, but NOT something that has nothing to do with the school and took place away from the school. Let the law do it job and stop all the complaints.
the working class sap June 28, 2012 at 08:36 PM
Years ago they had a bar in Rockville Centre that allowed underage drinkers. In fact nobody but the bartenders were of age.Well it wasn'.t right by the law, but you did not see kids walking around with 6 packs,and beating up people and destroying property.The Patch probably can prove people were not attacked on the streets of RVC when this illegal "teenage bar" was open.Yes.you could have been herned, griffed or joyced in a fight but what happened there stayed there,like Las Vegas If they are old enogh to fight and die for the USA they should have a place to drink This disgusting incident might have been avoided if the above was available as in the old days of RVC
Mike June 28, 2012 at 08:47 PM
The teenagers should have lost the privelege of attending graduation when they adopted the gang like attitudes. Maybe if you and all the other parents and individuals who defend these kids will realize that these teens have committed a criminal act, you will stop treating them as children and allow them to pay the price for their actions. They lost the ability to be children and have their walk at graduation the moment they engaged in their brutal actions. Unfortunately the 20th rated school district did not act in the best interest of the community. Shame on them and all who defend the actions that occurred that night.
SSHSGrad June 28, 2012 at 10:32 PM
Mike, the 20th rated school district has no business punishing these kids for what they did. Do you understand that this was NOT a school related incident? They are already going to be in enough trouble regardless what the school did or did not do. Oh and by the way, who are you to throw shame around?
Jim Lahey June 28, 2012 at 10:37 PM
It seems to be a fact of life and a given that teens are going to driving the liquor into themselves by grade 7 or 8 and for some of them the dope by grade 9. A lot of them are liquored up well before they could ever enter any respectable gin mill and knock back some Rye. But while getting herned or joyced is a serious concern at lease the problem would be contained to one area rather than having the young roving the streets letting the liquor do thinking and ending up on a full ride to Con College. You might have an unpopular but practical solution to the vexing liquor problem in town working class sap. Jim Lahey Retired NSPD
Mike June 29, 2012 at 08:18 PM
SSHS Grad - The school district had a morale obligation and it failed... By the way, it probably failed you too.. Have a nice day...
Family Friend June 29, 2012 at 10:45 PM
The couple who were involved in this attack are two of the nicest people you could know. Parents of 3 little girls, this wonderful family has been completely traumatized by this horrible event. He suffered extremely painful injuries, and the emotional shock has devastated them. It will take years for them to get through this. I have trouble agreeing with 'innocent until proven guilty' in this crime of brutality, where witnesses knew, and could identify, the kids who attacked him. I pray that justice will be served.
Mike June 30, 2012 at 01:24 AM
Finally, words of wisdom.. I agree with you completely..
Brutally Frank June 30, 2012 at 11:36 AM
What kind of a town is thIs? Herned? Joyced? Griffed? What are you taking about? And why must these underage kids have a place to drink? Do they all have "the gene?" Perhaps it really IS time to move.
Question June 30, 2012 at 02:09 PM
Out of all the rediculous comments I have read on these threads. This one regarding Chaminade trumps them all.
opinion-ated July 01, 2012 at 05:34 AM
Years ago we didnt see kids walking around drinking?? Really? and all because there was an illegal bar in town? So...how did they get to the illegal Bar? Did all the unfit parents Car Pool them there? or maybe the School district provided transportation they seem to be responsible for everything.
John July 05, 2012 at 01:17 PM
RVC Mom what a loon you are!! The same type of parent that produced these animals. I wounder how you would feel if it were your family member beaten. I want these animals sent before a nassau judge where they can feel the full wrath of the law. I guess they can try beating someone up in jail or theymight wet there diapers. Wake up lady things need to change here. To everyone else try walking around drinking in Garden City!!! A town hall meeting is in order with our judges and Board of Trustees and the question will be. " What the hell are you guys going to do not later but now" A good start is to post all the violations like drinking in the street,public urination and what fines were given. It would not suprise me if the RVC kids get a pass!!!


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