Residents, PD React to Roxen Road Assault

More than 200 residents attended Monday's Village Board meeting to speak on recent gang assault.

It takes a village to raise a child, and a change on how the village handles rowdy, drunk teens is needed now.

That was the message delivered by the hundreds of residents who attended Monday night's Village Board meeting to speak on the June 18 . Nearly 150 residents packed Village Hall with an additional 50-60 who stood outside because of fire code regulations on over occupancy.

RVC resident Katie Schumacher, who organized the gathering of residents via email, read a prepared statement to the board that the attack was not an isolated incident, that a change is needed now and it starts with the parents.

"We need a renewed focus on parental control and create stricter guidelines for the youth of Rockville Centre," she said.

Schumacher referenced other incidents that have occurred around RVC, from the on Nottingham Road to other unreported cases where cars were pelted with beer cans, houses defaced by teens and empty beer cans strewn across residential property.

"We are here because a change is needed," she said.

Several residents like Roger O'Donnell said the community needs to band together to try and stop the growing trend of out-of-control drunk teens roaming the village. "All of us can play a part in it and we need to do more," he said. "The police department needs to step up when they need to. Everyone here would echo what Katie said."

He added that Mayor Fran Murray's assuaged some of his concerns that village wasn't concerned with getting justice for the victim.

"We all really do care," Murray said. "We're here with you. We're looking for solutions. We want to make a change."

The mayor added that he is meeting with local principals on how they could work with the village to develop a strategy to combat this growing problem.

Charles Gennario, commissioner of the Rockville Centre Police Department, dispelled several rumors that his force didn't respond quick enough to the assault, that suspects weren't arrested because they were related to officers or that they weren't doing their job because arrests weren't made quick enough.

He explained that the gang assault, as well as the Nottingham Road robbery, are still under investigation, and the RVC PD have the full support of the Nassau County Police and county detectives bureau. He detailed the information he needs to make an arrest — evidence of a crime, a victim and suspect — and that his department cannot rush to judgement.

"I am very confident more arrests will be made," he said. "The rumors are wrong. I will arrest anyone I have evidence for."

He noted that the rumor it took RVC PD 20 minutes to respond is untrue. Police responded to the call within 1.5 minutes, he said. Gennario said that though two people came to the aid of the assault victim, several neighbors saw the attack, but no one has come to him to detail what they saw.

That information could help with their investigation, he said.

Gennario added that parents are the "arbitrators of discipline" for their kids. "I don't have enough police officers to babysit your kids," he said. "We don't get paid to babysit...I can't put armed guards on every corner."

Out of 16,000 incidents last year, Gennario said 476 were youth related and arrests are up 14 percent this year. "It's tough hearing the bullets thrown our way, but [his officers] are out there doing a good job. I'm proud of them."

Frank July 19, 2012 at 06:51 PM
@ liam. Oh yes it was a tragedy due to alcohol. It was not a freak accident.
Liam Neeson July 19, 2012 at 07:25 PM
you are incredibly immature and insensitive. you are the problem.
Frank July 19, 2012 at 07:28 PM
OK. Sweep it under the rug as an accident, when the whole town knew alcohol was to blame? Sorry Liam. you are the problem.
Liam Neeson July 19, 2012 at 07:35 PM
the whole town?? the only information you have is off this gossip website that carries 0 facts and is solely based on rumors. did you go to school with him? didnt think so. but you would know more right because you were there? glad to know you talk so freely about those who passed away as if it didn't matter. stay on topic pal.
Anthony Bottan (Editor) July 19, 2012 at 07:40 PM
"the only information you have is off this gossip website that carries 0 facts and is solely based on rumors." I don't usually comment on threads, but this statement couldn't be more false. EVERY story I've ever posted on Patch is thoroughly researched and sourced. You want to say that rumors get posted on threads? That's fair, but to call RVC Patch a "gossip site" is simply not true.
Liam Neeson July 19, 2012 at 07:47 PM
gossip-promoting* is more accurate. you are right the articles themselves are valid.
get a clue July 19, 2012 at 07:49 PM
Rather than posting on the thread you should be more responsible and eliminate "opinion-ated's" post so the parents of the young men that he is referring to don't have to be haunted by his insensitive comments.
Charles Bronson July 19, 2012 at 08:32 PM
A few words of advice to the Roxen Rd Gang, Soap on a Rope. I hope the rest of the teens in town can read the writing on the wall and learn from the mistakes made by others.
Sean O'Shea July 19, 2012 at 08:39 PM
The Patch provides residents with additional color of what is happening in the community that you might not know about. Newsday, LI Herald and News 12 cover the entire island. I enjoy having a news source that is based in this community. Do people go off in tangents that make no sense? Yes, but haven’t you ever watch a talk show? The participants do the same thing. If you feel strongly that all of this is gossip, do yourself a favor and don’t log on. Stick with another site that you feel is “factual”. The topic of underage drinking has been a problem for a long time. It took an incident like this to bring it to the forefront. I’m pretty sure had those boys not been consuming alcohol they would have never made inappropriate comments to begin with. The situation escalated, poor decisions were made and people were hurt.
opinion-ated July 19, 2012 at 09:47 PM
@ Liam. If you think my comment was meant to be insensitive, you are mistaken. My apologies, if this young man truly died of a freak accident, then you are right I am gossiping. Nobody wants "Revenge" on any family, they just want the laws followed and enforced. So along with telling us what is and isnt true about the underage drinking in town, you think providing teens with more garbage cans to throw away the beer cans is what is needed then? Thank You for your input, Pal. If this man who was attacked had died, would we be insensitive to bring it up at some later point in time?.... when this problem reoccurs again and again and again because of those who choose to deny that drinking is the problem.
joe thrapp July 20, 2012 at 12:40 AM
@Anthony, I for one appreciate your unbiased and factual,diligent and intelligent reporting of any and all stories that you print in the Patch. It is always the people who talk without the facts, who are less than honest about actual events. They are quick to accuse people of integrity of spreading gossip. Thank you for keeping the people of RVC up on current local news. I appreciate your honesty.
Elle917 July 20, 2012 at 02:25 AM
I find that the RVC Patch blog provides valuable insights into news stories. Whether readers agree or disagree with the direction of a discussion thread is another matter entirely and is immaterial to the Patch's news reporting guidelines. A blog's reader commentary section is usually a mashup of researched and published fact, perception, opinion, and yes, sometimes even a wee bit of rumor. Yet some rumors do carry shreds of truth which is why some major newspapers like the WSJ, NYT and Washington Post selectively include them in their published newsstories as "undisclosed sources" citations and is part of professional journalism. Some topics provoke loads of discussion like the Roxen story but it is often better to air the views out openly in a blog than to keep them bottled inside.
GG July 20, 2012 at 02:27 AM
The village of RVC should stop being so political and afraid to handle the youth problem head on with an iron fist, with more enforcement and hold the parents accountable for their kids. Like so many other towns here in NY and other states, when a minor is caught breaking the law in any way for minor offenses, the judge handles it and sentences the youth to community service. This is then assigned to the police dept. youth officer, who will have the kids, cleaning up the village, wearing a nice bright colored vest/shirt for their safety. Thus maybe will help the kids to respect the town in which they live and respect home owners property. They should be made to clean up all the foot bridges of beer cans, bottles and what ever other bottles they took from Mom & Dad's private stock. Clean the streets, remove graffiti, clean vacant lots, plant trees,and so on. Or simply to the parents, spend more time with your kids, it is not the police departments responsibilty to baby sit your kids and their unsupervised activity in RVC. The parent's should be called from the scene, when their kid is caught and be asked to come get them or pick them up from the police station, enough is enough! What do you think fellow home owners, it's your town, I know where my kids are, do you?
opinion-ated July 20, 2012 at 02:53 AM
Its 10pm .We know where the kids are...where are the parents??
Elle917 July 20, 2012 at 03:11 AM
Like you, I hope that this violent incident serves as a deterrent to others in RVC. If not, maybe having a modern day version of "Scared Straight!" (1978 documentary based on teenagers visiting actual convicts at Rahway State Prison) - experiencing what prison life is really like up close and personal may be the wake up call that teen gangs (and their parents) need.
Ear131 July 20, 2012 at 08:54 PM
These kids need something to do with their time. pathetic how when I was young I didnt need to hang around tormenting or harrassing people. My father just walked from his buildings garage and 3 teens were saying things to him ...Why dont these parents teach these kids to act like normal human beings ...if not go to jail and rot....
tom kane July 21, 2012 at 10:43 AM
does anyone know what street the house where they had been drinking at is on ???
Mickey July 22, 2012 at 09:14 PM
Actually Brian,police states are generally the end result of far left wing "planners." Many modern day "right" thinking people are pushing for more personal responsibility and more personal liberty.
Teddy B July 22, 2012 at 09:27 PM
@joemush How do you know the political affiliation of everyone that lives on Roxen Rd? You do realize that there are lots of rich leftists too,right? This really is not a Republican/Democrat deal so contain yourself sparky:)
joe thrapp July 23, 2012 at 12:22 AM
@Teddy D, I never mentioned any party affiliation tiger. Right wingers are not exclusively Democrats or Republicans. Rich people are not all of anything. The people on Roxen Road are crying out for a sacrifice before any of the alleged attack reports have been validated or proven. I'm just against mob justice. It's just not the American way of Justice. I hope you have a good week Teddy D. Bye,Bye
Frank July 23, 2012 at 02:15 PM
Drunk at Stingers!
Frank July 23, 2012 at 02:18 PM
please. With the mobile McBreen van, you can get your drink on anywhere you'd like!
Chuck S July 23, 2012 at 03:08 PM
Anyone who thinks mcbreens is a part of the problem is comepletely misinformed. Those guys have been in business in this town for twenty years and are raising their families here. Ive met each of them on several different occasions because they are very involved in the community and seem to donate to every function in town
Mo July 23, 2012 at 05:40 PM
Beer is not the issue. Pot is not the issue. Ask these little darlings what they took that night. They have access to hard drugs and they use them. Nearly 100 posts about this issue and everyone of you have missed the real issue. Get your collective heads out of the sand and realize that these kids/young men are taking hard drugs and mixing them with alcohol. Wake up people!
tom kane July 23, 2012 at 05:52 PM
Of course they all know. But those responsible for enforcing the law are the crux of the issue. As a teen you can certainly get beer and you can drink it at the bridge, behind the school, behind the Rec center or just walk around with it. So then the store that sold it , the parent who leaves it in the garage fridge w/o checking inventory of it, etc etc are responsible for breaking the law. The Home owner where the alcohol is served is responsible wether they knew it was happening or not under the Host Law. This was put into effect to hold people accountable for things that happen when that minor leaves the home where the alcohol was served then gets in a car and drives and kills someone else or themselves, falls down the stairs and dies ( as occurred recently here in town..what ever happened in that case???) or gets hit by car while walking home intoxicated, etc etc. Its about accountability for breaking a law that puts others in harms way. I don't know where alcohol consumed in your home which fueled to a group of teens into beating someone up falls into place. BUT IT SHOULD. There should be no loophole. OR it should be a separate charge. I guess proving it happened is the problem when people lie to cover it up. I know they say you can lose your home, but has anyone really ever been brought to justice???
joe July 23, 2012 at 06:53 PM
Yes. Overlook Lane
Reallystrictmom July 23, 2012 at 07:36 PM
If these kids wanted to drink together and that's all, they should have stayed off the streets, they were hanging out looking to victimize anyone that came by. They deserve to get the punishment that fits the crime. If other drugs did not play a role in their behavior, then one has to wonder where does such violent, horrific behavior come from? There had to be signs that such violent behavior was possible. My kids do not hang out in large groups drinking and victimizing others. They must let me know where they are and who they are with, and they are over 19, as long as they are living in my house and we are supporting them, they are expected to act appropriately and responsibly. We do punish them if their behavior is not appropriate, they respect others, are kind, considerate, popular and can converse and enjoy the company of people of all ages. They work, were not given cars, and are expected to help at home. They have a great life, summer house, vacations, and lots of love and support at home. My son has played team sports with one of the kids arrested and can't understand why he and his friends would act in such a violent way. I am thankful that my kids understand the seriousness of this incident and that they feel really bad for the victims, but I have no answers for them when they asked why did these kids act this way.
tom kane July 24, 2012 at 01:15 AM
hey really strictmom.... where is your summer house, im in westhampton beach maybe we can get our fams together I have the boys every other weekend let me know.....Ciao
Teddy B July 24, 2012 at 09:03 PM
@joemush HAHAHAHAHA....nice try sparky! The point is that you are dead wrong to label the residents of Roxen Rd as left wing,right wing,Dem,Rep,etc and you know it now that I called you out. There is no need to drag this discussion into that area.It's just too bad that you can't admit it when you make a mistake. Oh well,par for the course from you.
joe thrapp July 24, 2012 at 09:45 PM
Tebby B, Tiger, it's not important for me to be right. I like sharing my ideas about current RVC events. It's also good to hear your thoughts and ideas about RVC. Look forward to speaking with you on the issues, goodnight.


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