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A Solution to Curtail Underage Drinking in RVC

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At a recent , more than 200 residents came out to speak on the and offer opinions on possible solutions to the growing trend of underage drinking and subsequent lewd behavior.

We'd like to know which ones you think could work.

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John July 30, 2012 at 02:40 PM
The reason the social host law was not enforced is clear. The RVC police have there hands tied by the village. It is going to really take an out cry from the residents to change that. As I mentioned earlier there are many friends down at village hall as in any other village and that does not change overnight. I feel the police know what to do but the powers that be have them with a hand tied behind there back.I also suggested mandatory fines out of the hands of the local judges and plea power of the village attorney.
Marc July 30, 2012 at 04:40 PM
Good one...
Marc July 30, 2012 at 04:42 PM
You are spot on!
Marc July 30, 2012 at 04:50 PM
Beginning to find out how bad it is...what a shame.
RVC Family July 30, 2012 at 08:03 PM
Where my nieces & nephews live they are not allowed to play in the next 3 games if a photo of them appears on Facebook or anywhere of them drinking. It really keeps the kids from drinking.
Marc July 30, 2012 at 08:06 PM
@Gee Tee: I've been down this road with him before, and its always "your kid has no friends." I don't believe this is a parent. So forget it.
Brian July 30, 2012 at 09:26 PM
RVC Family - The only thing it does is stop them from taking photos and talking about the drinking.. If you really believe it totally stops it, you're smoking something..
RVC resident July 30, 2012 at 10:04 PM
You know I hope the the next time you have underage kids drinking at your house you get sued so badly they take you house away from you!!!! I wonder then if you will feel the same way about promoting this insanity !!!
RVC Family July 31, 2012 at 01:33 AM
Brian - even the way you respond to people is with complete lack of respect. Obviously we can't stop it but if you think teenagers are going to stop using their phones & taking pictures then your not using your mind. Where there are parties there are phones clicking away. I know my nephew even said I wouldn't think of being caught drinking because I wouldn't get to play in the next few games. Punishment works. The mayor said he was going to work with the schools so punishment through sports is a big punishment. And I've seen it work!
Brian July 31, 2012 at 03:51 AM
@frank Why would you bring school into this that is by far the dumbest thing I have ever heard of nice try. Maybe a little community service wouldn't kill but bringing school into the situation is the wrong way.
RVC native August 02, 2012 at 02:08 PM
My 17 year old has plenty of friends. They walk in and out of town, hang out and talk in the Village Green, use the Rec Center courts and more. I host parties where they blast the music and go in and out of the house...... There is no drinking, no pot , they don't even sneak a cigarette! And believe me, I have spied, had my neighbors, who are friends, spy, etc....never an issue. These are parties of 20 or more kids, all dancing and having a GREAT time without drinking. As this group of teens all say....we are cool enough, the losers all hang out and need their " we got so wasted last night" stories to impress each other because that's all they know- being competitive. Also, to the posting that said schools should have a morals type class.....they do, they also have a bully class, a ' good decisions ' class ....ALL of that, starting from 2nd grade on....total joke. Parents need to be in charge of how they portray drinking and drug use to their teens. There is more to a fun party than getting hammered or stoned.
RVC native August 02, 2012 at 02:20 PM
Schools have the social programs and assemblies already. The kids who need to listen the most laugh them off. Same with the Drivers Ed movies about texting/ driving, drinking/ driving....and that is from the mouths of these same kids. I know because I hear them as they leave the programs etc.
Frank August 02, 2012 at 02:21 PM
@ Brian. Why? Sports and After School Activities are a privilege and luxury. Just like deadbeats that have their wages garnished, teenagers who commit crimes should be stripped of privileges (temporarily until the "lesson is learned").
RVC native August 02, 2012 at 02:22 PM
My 17 year old has plenty of friends. They walk in and out of town, hang out and talk in the Village Green, use the Rec Center courts and more. I host parties where they blast the music and go in and out of the house...... There is no drinking, no pot , they don't even sneak a cigarette! And believe me, I have spied, had my neighbors, who are friends, spy, etc....never an issue. These are parties of 20 or more kids, all dancing and having a GREAT time without drinking. As this group of teens all say....we are cool enough, the losers all hang out and need their " we got so wasted last night" stories to impress each other because that's all they know- being competitive. Also, to the posting that said schools should have a morals type class.....they do, they also have a bully class, a ' good decisions ' class ....ALL of that, starting from 2nd grade on....total joke. Parents need to be in charge of how they portray drinking and drug use to their teens. There is more to a fun party than getting hammered or stoned.
Frank August 02, 2012 at 02:30 PM
They laugh them off because there's "no bite to them". they can't relate until it happens to one of their own. When my kids were in school, they got shocked over Len Bias... Here was this clean-cut, church going guy, loved by all, who was drafted by the Celtics in 1986, and was considered by all to be the next big thing in Basketball. Two days after the draft he dies from a cocaine overdose. "Scared straight" has its merits.
A.F. August 02, 2012 at 02:42 PM
And yet lazy parenting is the root cause of the problem. Let's not go overboard and say that teen drinking is destroying our village, but parents need to be more involved in what their children are doing - also , as a parent of children with no assets of their own, it is YOU who will be sued in our overly litigious society...
A.F. August 02, 2012 at 02:47 PM
Telling someone who disagrees with you to move is hardly an intelligent point of discussion. Please have something better to offer next time you post.
A.F. August 02, 2012 at 02:51 PM
Well said and thanks for illustrating it with a concrete example.... Speaking of concrete, that must be what that parent's head is made of as he/she would be fully responsible under NYS Law for any consequences as a result of hosting an underage drinking party.
A.F. August 02, 2012 at 03:07 PM
Many great comments! I Hope we can all agree we parents need to take an active role in all of our children's activities, and that if the parent is unable (or unwilling) to deal with bad behaviour, then our Village has the right to seek redress with both child and parent.
Brian August 02, 2012 at 06:12 PM
I don't know where you are living but I have never heard of kids just dancing what are they in middle school lol.
haylies August 02, 2012 at 06:15 PM
It just comes down to the total disrespect teens have for adults and each other as well as the entitled, superior attitude that has seemed to explode in the past 10 years. This is not about drinking. I drank when I was in high school. I also respected my parents/teachers/adults, did well in school, caused no damage to property or other people and was pretty much a good kid...who liked to party sometimes. It is the megalomaniac attitude and how that forms which is causing all of these issues. I can't even IMAGINE as a kid teasing, harassing or otherwise disrespecting an adult (to their face), and certainly not field kicking their head. I do think alot of it comes from the kids whose parents have $. I am not sure why, but I see a bigger lack of empathy and ability to assimilate with other people when a kid comes from an affluent home. Seems backwards in a way. I agree that we need to be hardcore. One offense...physically harming someone, vandalizing or harassing residents... should be given a swift and embarrassing punishment. No sports, no prom, etc. and the punishment must certainly come with some crappy chore. Litter pickup, dog crap pickup, cleaning toilets at village parks, anything that makes the little dirtbags squirm! (if you hear anger it is; I just had a teenager tell me he would "slap me" if I looked at him again). Oh RVC, what has gone so, so wrong?
Concerned Citizen August 02, 2012 at 06:28 PM
Brian?
Brian August 03, 2012 at 02:08 AM
Yes @concernedcitizen
RVC resident August 03, 2012 at 02:48 AM
Brian, I hope that you are just a teen pretending to be an adult because it would be sad to think that we have parents in this town who actually think like you!!!
Marc August 03, 2012 at 03:08 AM
Hey Anthony Botan: Tell us what happened tonite (8/2) @ 10.30 PM on the corner of South Park Avenue and Merrick Road.
Frank August 03, 2012 at 02:16 PM
@ Marc. What happened?
Marc August 03, 2012 at 03:22 PM
Well, Frank,it was a balmy night last outside of Dodici, our lovely family restaurant block, when, on the corner of S Park and Village, a brawl broke out, punches were thrown and a kid was being punted down the road. Another faction of kids across the street wanted to get involved but, thankfully, RVC's finest were johnny-on-the spot and a serious event was averted. Let me be clear before the verbal assaults on my person begin: I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THESE KIDS WERE OR WHERE THEY WERE FROM. Were they from RVC? No idea? Queens? No idea. South Carolina? No idea. OKAY? The simple point is,it appears to me, they're seems to be an increase of youth-oriented violence occurring recently in the Village. Some will say: "boys will be boys." Others will say: "This is what good friends do when they hang out,not dance at dorky parties." Others may say: "Its a rite of passage." And, still, others may say: This is unacceptable! Something must be done!" These are our kids out there. Which of the above are you?
A.F. August 03, 2012 at 03:36 PM
Marc, my answer would simply be that actions have consequences. A public brawl is violation of community law, and punishment commensurate with the crime should be meted out to the transgressors.
Marc August 03, 2012 at 03:41 PM
Preaching to the choir....
RVC native August 03, 2012 at 04:04 PM
Brian: You are most certainly a child posing as an adult. The very name RVC Native means I was born, raised and still reside in RVC. The parties are in RVC, attended by many, many responsible teens who just want to have a good time- and they know how to do that without getting wasted because they are all very self-assured and don't need it. They turn my house into a nightclub- 1 of them brings his DJ stuff, the blacklights go on, and there you go: a night of complete FUN. My neighbors don't mind the noise because they appreciate they are not smoking pot or drinking/stumbling onto their property. to the 'real' adults posting: these kids were raised with respect- to give respect to others and to expect to be respected. They had to earn privileges- a little at a time, and to understand no means NO. My teen had earned the privilege at 15 years old to venture into NYC without adults and they do it all the time now. Its all about trust, respect and PARENTING! We don't need more rules in town, or more police ($$) etc.

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