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Centennial Park Nixed From Molloy Fields Upgrade Project

Structural deficiencies in the ground beneath it made it unable to support synthetic turf fields and drainage system.

Molloy College's to upgrade four village athletic fields, fit them with synthetic turf and build an additional one has been scaled down due to unexpected, additional construction costs, officials said.

The proposed NCAA baseball and hockey fields outlined in the project for Centennial Park were taken out of the plan because engineers found structural deficiencies in the ground underneath the park, officials said.

“The subsurface soil is structurally unable to support new synthetic turf fields and the associated drainage system,” said John Cameron of Cameron Engineering, the village’s engineers on the project who performed the subsurface evaluation.

Test borings of the area, some as deep as 35 feet, revealed “a high variability of materials buried beneath the surface,” according to the engineering report, “confirming the fact that the site had historically been filled for many years with rubble, wood, concrete and silty soils over an underlying bog layer.”

Without significant soil replacement and extensive structural improvements that would cost millions of dollars more than a typical installation, the fields would not remain flat and level, Cameron said.

“After the engineering report, Molloy told us they couldn’t justify the expense of the Centennial Park portion of the project,” Mayor Fran Murray said.

Cameron told village officials that the fields are acceptable for natural turf. “If and when any uneven settlement takes place, the costs of repairs are much less than for a synthetic turf installation," he said. "Regular play can be conducted on the natural turf fields as normal."

Under the terms of the revised agreement with Molloy, the college will provide a fixed fee of $1.6 million for the construction and use of an NCAA-regulation, synthetic turf women’s softball field at the Skelos Sports Complex on Peninsula Boulevard. The new field and an associated tee-ball field will be available to local sports organizations.
At the Sept. 4 Board of Trustees meeting, the mayor added that bids for the Klein Field improvements at the Skelos Sports Complex had come in lower than expected, leaving some funds available to improve fields at Centennial Park.

Mayor Murray said that he and the Board of Trustees would meet with local sports organizations before deciding how to proceed with those improvements.

Frank September 05, 2012 at 04:08 PM
"Structural deficiencies in the ground beneath it made it unable to support synthetic turf fields and drainage system.".... They forgot to mention about the Darby Drugs VOC plume that is heading for Mill River and the untold millions it would take to remediate it. Please refer to link. http://rockvillecentre.patch.com/articles/is-the-molloy-fields-upgrade-project-good-for-rvc Let's hope RVC comes to the rescue of South Side residents before the environmental disaster hit home(s)... literally.
Mike S. September 05, 2012 at 05:42 PM
.>>Molloy College's plan to upgrade four village athletic fields, fit them with synthetic turf and build an additional one has been SCALED DOWN [emphasis edded] due to unexpected, additional construction costs, officials said. What does this mean? Will there be any development or improvements to Ketler, Bligh and Lister?
Anthony Bottan (Editor) September 05, 2012 at 05:50 PM
Mike S., there will be upgrades to those fields, just not funded by Molloy in this large project. "At the Sept. 4 Board of Trustees meeting, the mayor added that bids for the Klein Field improvements at the Skelos Sports Complex had come in lower than expected, leaving some funds available to improve fields at Centennial Park."
ERsanity September 05, 2012 at 07:37 PM
They will be making "improvements" to the parks. Hopefully these improvements will involve new sod, a sprinkler system and beautification and not new/additional lights and/or fences.
joe thrapp September 05, 2012 at 09:58 PM
Anthony, Once again Mayor Franny is living in a fantasy world. Lower Bids on a project that up until last night was just a Memorandum of Understanding between Cameron, Village of RVC and Molloy College. At a town meeting on May 23rd Mayor Franny looked 100 residents in the face and said "there is no agreement, there is no contract with Molloy for the use of RVC Athletic fields". He said, " We may decided not to do this proposed project depending on residents input". Now there are lower bids on a project that the board never approved or agreed to and Mayor Franny has received lower bids. Lower Bids to what? Nothing has ever been approved according to Mayor Franny. Where was the notice in the paper about the non existing proposal? Where is the notice published in the paper for bids for improvements to Skelos Field and Klein fields? When did the MOU change from all the fields in the Centennial Park complex and now limited to Skelos and Klein? When does Mayor Franny fantasy world become reality? How do we know what the bids were and when did he ask for bids and how did he save any money. Sounds like someone is paying Cameron and not one person in public knows and I bet Fantasy Franny is the only Board member knows anything. Stay tuned to the next episode of "Fantasy Franny and my Molloy Musketeers". See how Fantasy Franny make believe CEO... gets free money. Watch the Village TV Channel 18 tomorrow night at 8 PM for more of Fantasy Franny.
joe thrapp September 06, 2012 at 01:51 PM
Frank, the source of the plume is still alive and well and living under 80 Banks Avenue. The NYSDEC did not make Avalon Bay remove the VOC contamination located 90 feet under the property. Newsday had a article some years ago about hot zones on Long Island for women's breast cancer. Guess where one of the hot spot's were located. Yes,south of Sunrise highway in the Mill River Section of RVC. The area is in the direct path of the VOC plume. Is this a coincidence? The Village is more worried about taking care of their friends up at Molloy, than taking care of the health of the residents of the Mill River section.
Anthony Bottan (Editor) September 06, 2012 at 06:22 PM
Frank, I received this email from Harry Weed, superintendent of DPW: "The problem with the area, is that this area with its proximity to Mill river has what is known as a bog condition below the ground fill surface which could cause the area to have settlement or a pumping action. There would be a need to remove a great deal of material and then bring in a material along with other stabilization methods to make sure that the ground would remain stable and a great deal of added drainage. This would elevate the cost of the project considerably. The allegation that it could be a problem from the Darby Drug site is incorrect. That site has been remediated and approved by NYSDEC."
joe thrapp September 07, 2012 at 03:40 AM
Anthony, Harry Weed is being less than honest with you about the off-site Darby Drug plume remediation. Some sampling has been done at the MTA now NICE garage but that is it. The source of the plume is still active and the plume is still moving south. If the Plume is not cleaned up by December 2012, the NYSDEC may declare RVC a state super fund site and the NYSDEC will have to clean it up. If you want to confirm this please check with Jim Harrington Director, Remedial Bureau A Division of Environmental Remediation 518-402-9625. Please reference NYSDEC number C130140A, if you call. He is duty bound to tell the truth. Mr. Harrington is not a political appointee.
joe thrapp September 07, 2012 at 03:56 AM
Anthony, To be clear a Certificate of Completion was issued for case NYSDEC C130140 for Darby Drugs onsite remediation for 80 to 100 Banks Avenue. The Offsite Darby Drug remediation case C130140A is still opened with no remediation work done. This offsite is still active additionally to C130140A the NYSDEC may refer to this site as Darby Group Companies, Inc.,Index # W1-1102-06-12. If you need to you may contact me.
Frank September 07, 2012 at 02:11 PM
Anthony. Yes the Darby Drug site itself has been remediated and re-zoned as restricted residential. BUT, the VOCs have: migrated off-site (i.e. Darby Drug complex) throughout the surrounding soil (remember from 1978 to 2003, no remediation was done... that means the VOCs had 25 years to migrate - which it has); has not been mitigated (FACT); and is currently migrating towards mill river (FACT). Those statements are directly from the RVC website: http://www.rvcny.us/darby2/workplan.C130140.2007-07.Off__Site_RI_WP.pdf. Please read this document for yourself. (see pages 2-4, and look at of 117). and if you don't believe me, go to the very end of south village: There are NYS DEP monitoring wells there for a reason.
Frank September 07, 2012 at 02:23 PM
@ Anthony. Just remember that huge sums of money are involved and RVC will do its best not to be completely liable for the clean-up... It would cost local taxpayers dearly if it had to. that is why every rep from RVC will do its best to "spin" the situation. Maybe in thirty years, RVC will sell that soccer park and some mogul (or state welfare agency... OMC south anyone?) will put up a building, making themselves responsible for the clean up (like Avalon Bay).
joe thrapp September 07, 2012 at 03:04 PM
Anthony,The picture of the Plume's path is on page 19 of the file that Frank sent to the Patch. In theory the Plume has travel one to one and half miles from the Darby Drugs site. Depending on the path of the Plume it could be as far south as South Park Avenue and Riverside. At the doorsteps of the Riverside School. The Plume is full of dangerous Volatile Organic Chemicals (VOC)
mb September 07, 2012 at 04:59 PM
Something is fishy and it is not just mill river. How do you spend thousands of dollars to create a plan, with no contract in place, and somehow fail to recognize that the site was a former dumping ground and that there is a plume heading south directly where the fields are? None of this is new information. This is all dated material that frank and joe bush posted. Is it possible that our elected officials are ignorant of this information? Or is something fishy going on? Why would you put a synthetic turf field on top of a potential superfund site? You wouldn't unless you wanted to be like Greenwich and spend millions of dollars to install it and then more to remove it.
Frank September 07, 2012 at 05:30 PM
@ MB. My favorite is when Leslie Price (president of the RVC Conservancy) endorsed the project. I guess Leslie is just as clueless about how big the Darby Drugs issue really is...
Frank September 07, 2012 at 05:32 PM
How ironic... we stop one ill, only to be followed by a much more devastating one...
ERsanity September 07, 2012 at 06:46 PM
It's like a bad gift that keeps on giving.
mb September 07, 2012 at 08:09 PM
Yes that was an ironic twist. Most conservancy groups try to save green space. This one endorsed crumb rubber tire fields. Bizarre.
Parrish September 09, 2012 at 05:34 PM
Good thing u don't live in RVC anymore Frankie. I'm sure the complex you live on has perfect soil underneath...Maybe it's munchkin land!!!
Frank September 10, 2012 at 06:38 PM
In the keys... don't get better than that!


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