Is the Molloy Fields Upgrade Project Good for RVC?

Take our poll and let us know what you think.

The village recently announced a proposed agreement with to upgrade four existing athletic fields in the village with synthetic turf and create one new one, providing multi-purpose playing fields for soccer, baseball, softball, field hockey and lacrosse.

Under the , three of the four fields (Barasch, Lister and Blighe) on the south side of the village would be fitted with synthetic turf, and all four would be equipped with a sub-surface drainage system that would store rainfall and inhibit runoff into Mill River. Here's what the would look like.

Molloy, village school and club teams would share time on the fields, and Molloy would pay $6 million for the renovation.

Some residents questioned the proposal and how it could the surrounding community on the south side of the village.

What do you think of it? Take our poll and let us know!

Frank June 06, 2012 at 05:42 PM
It would be good if it didn't ask for so much quality of life sacrifices of our South RVC residents and neighbors. And why is Morgan Days Park not part of the Molloy deal? Morgan Days is larger than Blighe. Many in RVC like the open space Blighe provides on the South side of Town and the tree line break also "hides" the god awful water tower from view.
mb June 06, 2012 at 08:34 PM
Anthony - can you clue us in to how the process will work? Will the mayor and board share their proposal and then get feedback from the community before a final proposal is put in place? Because the last town hall meeting seemed extremely disorganized with limited information.
joe thrapp June 06, 2012 at 10:44 PM
Mayor Murray said the current Molloy playing field deal was up to the Village Board to decide and did not require Planning Board approval. It is clear to me after reading the RVC Planning Boards 2009 approval for the Molloy Public Square project, the Molloy playing fields were part of the RVC Planning board’s hearing decision. It is my understanding that the Planning Board stated they would look at any future impact and would call for additional hearings under SEQR when the location of the playing fields were found. During the hearing Molloy said they would not place the playing fields in RVC. The recent proposal by Molloy is part of the RVC Planning board’s 2009 decision and not a new and separate application. This proposal must be investigated under SEQR by the Planning board to guard the interest of the residents for the potential impacts to traffic, light trespass, lead contamination, artificial turf health risks, property values, the elimination of open parkland, and the elimination of two Little league fields, and the ongoing cost related to Centennial Park and the RVC playing fields. I believe this new NCAA Baseball Stadium will have an ADVERSE negative effect on the Character and quality of life in RVC. It is unfair to the 100’s of children who play on little league teams by eliminating two playing fields to accommodate Molloy College by building a NCAA Baseball Stadium smack dab in the middle of a residential neighborhood. .
That RVC guy June 07, 2012 at 01:11 PM
My reservations concern conflicts; We have already had several Little league games cancelled due to the H.S. team using the fields this year. What happens when Malloy enters the mix? What is the pecking order? I suspect it will be the little leaguers who get the wrong end of this deal, and with due respect to Malloy, they are really what these fields are all about.
Johnny June 07, 2012 at 02:48 PM
I am against the field upgrade this is all about Molloy College. I heard that the Village wants to sod Tighe Field, Mayor Murray once you sod that field it will be back as it is right now. Whats going on with the new little league field behind Hickey? I thought it was supposed to be completed by May 31st. To me it looks like a dump. I also would like to say that the Adult Softball will be affected by this upgrade, just something that the village should think about.
Frank June 07, 2012 at 02:48 PM
Excellent points on the little league access! Tell that to Mayor Murray.
Mike M June 07, 2012 at 03:31 PM
We dont have enough field space, why share it with a university--makes no sense!!
Think about it June 07, 2012 at 03:42 PM
Apparently you know nothing about it or you don't have the forsight to see what it will do to your community, the adjacent communities, the wetlands, the scheduling for RVC residents' sports, the cost to upkeep or even your childs health. Please make another pitcher of koolaid.
Frank June 07, 2012 at 04:19 PM
I guess Mayor Murray needs to make a stronger pitcher of kool-aid! Next marketing ploy will be a cook-out at Lister sponsered by Molloy; with rides for the kiddies and a scale model of the project.
Frank June 07, 2012 at 04:20 PM
@ Mike M. Absolutely correct! Tell that to Mayor Murray!
ERsanity June 08, 2012 at 12:45 PM
It will be great for Molloy College; not all of Rockville Centre. It will benefit their non-existent Field Hockey Team and their non-NCAA sanctioned Rugby Team at the expense of RVC teams and the communities surrounding these fields.
joe thrapp August 06, 2012 at 07:31 PM
Hey Frank, Mayor Franny is pretty quiet about his pet project for his friends up at Molloy. I wonder if they found some really ugly stuff lying underground at Centennial Park? I'm sure there's something going on. Mayor Franny will sacrifice the residents of South RVC or anyone else for his pals up at Molloy.
ERsanity August 06, 2012 at 08:07 PM
Can you say Superfund Site?
joe thrapp August 06, 2012 at 10:36 PM
Hi ERsanity, you are one hundred percent right about Superfund site. Here's one thing Mayor Franny does not want anyone to type into the Google search line, "rvc Superfund site". If you do RVC will come up as a Superfund site. This is a hold over from a earlier Murray administration.
ERsanity August 07, 2012 at 01:45 PM
Yikes. I was only joking about Superfund, but low and behold - there it is. I wonder if they mention that in the brochures for Avalon.
Frank August 07, 2012 at 02:37 PM
@ All. If it's dead quiet that means the village found a major problem at Centennial Park. Like I've been saying all along, those parks were landfill sites back in the day before they were backfilled with rubble. That land was never capped with a 120 mil landfill liner, a good soil cap, off-gassing equipment, or a storm water drainage collection system, like they do for landfills today. I wonder if the residents of Riverside Road were exposed to any potential carcinogens by simply living there? Betcha they found contaminated soil that requires remediation, costing millions beyond the 6 million it was supposed to take to upgrade the parks.
joe thrapp August 07, 2012 at 03:07 PM
@ERsanity, because of some obscure language and the way Banks Avenue was near re mediated in the Brownfield legislation, Avalon Bay is not legally responsible to disclose the ongoing off site contamination and the present on site re mediation active tools on site being used to continue the re mediation process to their tennants. It is not hard to believe that the contamination at Avalon Bay and offsite continue to flow contamination into South RVC including the fields. The fields are in the path of the south by southwest path of the contaminated PCE plume. If you need confirmation just call the NYSDEC, NYSDOH or the Village of RVC. Believe it or not RVC is the lead agency on contamination remediation and they refuse to take any steps to enforce or curb the plume to the responsible party. In this case it is Darby Drugs of Westbury. This is one village that operates totally in secret.
mb August 07, 2012 at 03:17 PM
Frank - I think you are on to something. I am not aware of the history - can you elaborate? How long ago were they landfill sites and which companies were dumping? Thanks - mb
joe thrapp August 07, 2012 at 03:18 PM
Frank, if true it may not be just the contamination from an old landfill, but in my non professional opinion it may also come from the off site and on site near remediation PCE contaminated plume moving south from Darby Drugs. Ask the Village or the NYSDEC. Go to Google type in "rvc Superfund site" and tell me what you see. Oh what tangled web we weave......
Frank August 07, 2012 at 03:23 PM
@ Joebush. As much as I like to bash the village administration, the environmental clean-up at the Avalon complex is well documented and freely available to all. http://www.dec.ny.gov/chemical/30360.html http://www.dec.ny.gov/chemical/36045.html BTW, Avalon spent millions to remediate... millions that the Village would never had spent. Hell, the won't even spend a dime on road repaving in Old Canterbury! My ex-neighbors have been waiting 8 years to have their road repaved! And New York State, not RVC, dictated the requirements for clean-up. The off-site plume is not Avalon's responsibility and that was determined by New York State. It costs untold millions to do any remediation. Taxes in RVC are high enough! RVC is going to wait it out until New York State forces its hand or another developer wants to tackle the problem at their cost. That's the truth.
Frank August 07, 2012 at 03:44 PM
@ joebush. Don't look at the internet. The whole superfund project for 80 banks avenue is freely available at the RVC Library. All you got to do is go there and see for ourself. This is from my personal fishing archive (I don't like to fish near pollution): From a 2007 document "...Potential receptors for a dissolved VOC plume leaving the site would include the Rockville Centre Wellfield located on the west side of Mill River in Lister Park, and downgradient commercial and residential properties via vapor intrusion. The wellfield is not expected to be at risk of impact, since the wells are screened within the Magothy Aquifer and the plume appears to be confined to the upper 15 feet of the water column by a local clay layer. Furthermore, water quality data for the wells compiled by the Nassau County Department of Health do not indicate impact from an on-going source of contamination. With respect to vapor impacts, there are few developed properties between 80-100 Banks Avenue and Mill River, where the plume would be expected to discharge. Developed properties include the MTA bus depot on Nassau Street and the Hampton Suites Hotel located on the north side of Sunrise Highway. If the plume fails to discharge to Mill River and continues south, it will encounter a residential area south of S. Village Avenue, approximately 1,750 feet from the site..."
Frank August 07, 2012 at 03:56 PM
The projected plume path has it going under: -MTA bus depot -under LIRR tracks -Hotel behind King Kullen -Sunrise highway -merrick road (specifically under the pedestrian bridge) -RVC Soccer park on South Village - And eventually into Mill River, which washes into the Western Bays, affecting East Rockaway, Oceanside, and Hewlett. My theory is the VOCs in Mill River will dilute with the Supertanker a day of sewage and other chemicals Nassa County dumps into the Western Bays. If they plume deviates, it could migrate in a wider fashion, possibly extending under King Kullen and the Nice Co-op building on South Village. There are supposed to be monitoring stations to check on the plume's horizontal rate of progress. Seriously, everybody in RVC should be concerned.
Frank August 07, 2012 at 04:06 PM
Here are links of the garbage disposal grounds in 1952. Everybody was dumping there. http://cdm16373.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15281coll32/id/42 http://cdm15281.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15281coll32/id/46 BTW all of this information is available at the RVC Public Library.
joe thrapp August 07, 2012 at 04:35 PM
Frank, unbelievable you have a great grasp of what may or may not be in Lister Park, great work. There seems to be a lot of info out there about the PCE Plume. A couple of things I would like to share with you is the DEC found in 1983 and 1990 that the PCE levels in the well fields exceed the acceptable levels for PCE. In the past there were three well heads in the well field in Sunrise Water department location. The Village unknown to the public shut down one of the well heads under mysterious circumstance, which they refuse to disclose to the public or to the NYSDEC after several requests. After the 2007 report the PCE plume was found to have pierced the first 15 ft clay layer and was later found below the second clay layer below 90 ft. Do the people that work at King Kullen, the Nice Garage and the people who visit the Hampton Inn know they are walking on top of a dangerous PCE Plume. All of this is go on with no action by Mayor Franny to contain or warn the people of the the village to ongoing off-site contamination. The mystery of Lister Park deepens.
joe thrapp August 07, 2012 at 04:39 PM
Frank, like you all of the information I refereed to is available at the RVC Library. The sad thing is that people like us who are not responsible for fixing the problem have to sit by and watch Mayor Franny put the health of the residents in a less than safe environment.
Frank August 07, 2012 at 05:57 PM
It's all about the money. RVC would go bankrupt if it had to make good on all the environmental ills in town. Avalon was a Godsend as it removed a sizable portion of the contaminated soil. All the town can do now is simply monitor the plume progress. to be honest, most of RVC water comes from the Magothy Aquifer, well beyond the current depth of the plume, and with the clay layers, doubt if it will get any lower. What pains me is that those VOCs will eventually spill into Mill River and those Southside residents may have issues selling their homes in the future. For the record, there should be a ban on fishing and crabbing at Mill River.
ERsanity August 08, 2012 at 01:54 PM
I see people crabbing there all the time and shudder at the thought of eating them. I do go fishing in there, but for me, it's strictly catch and release. There's an older gentleman who's either Russian or Polish who fishes there for eels every week and I can only image what it's doing to him.
ERsanity August 09, 2012 at 01:15 PM
@Frank, great shots. Is this shot from Sunrise Hwy looking south (from where the Mill River goes under Sunrise); or from the S. Park Avenue bridge looking south? I can see ERHS in the background.
ERsanity August 09, 2012 at 01:18 PM
@Frank, I was referring to this shot: http://cdm16373.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15281coll32/id/42 I forgot to add the link.
Frank September 05, 2012 at 04:13 PM
@ ERsanity. yes, it's from Sunrise hwy looking south. If you look hard enough you can make out the little bridge.


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